Join us for an inspiring conversation with Tiff Marchand, the creative force behind Night Carver Designs. In this interview, Tiff shares her journey going from the corporate world to becoming a full-time artist specializing in horror-themed and pop culture art. Learn how she transitioned from CNC to power carving and how becoming a twin parent led to her iconic brand name.
Chris (00:00.078)
So to get started, you want to tell us your name and the name of your page and what you make.
Tiff Marchand (00:10.389)
Yeah, absolutely. So my name is Tiff Marchand. I am from Night Carver Designs. I like to specialize in like horror themed and pop culture type art.
It used to be a mostly CNC shop, but has been transitioning more and more over to power carving. And now I'm introducing laser work to kind of help people who are getting into power carvings lives a little bit easier by like making templates and stuff, because I, I also teach power carving. So I, you know, same thing as we were talking a little bit before the show is when you're doing something and you notice that something isn't up to par, you need to improve something, you want to help that out. So.
I just started making these templates to kind of help people get started in it. So I bounce around from a little bit of everything. Yeah.
Chris (00:55.406)
That's so cool. That's awesome. How did you get your start in that originally?
Tiff Marchand (01:01.109)
I was always an artist, so like I grew up painting. My dad would scroll saw stuff that my mom would paint it. And then I kind of started doing that with them. But it was always just with like the scroll saw, never with like routers or power carving before. And then...
after I had my kids, I wanted more excuses to be in the workshop because I needed breaks because I have twins and they're insane. Yeah, so I needed like an excuse to get out of the house. So I'm gonna start woodworking again. I'm like, and then I started picking out hand routed signs because I would go to the local fair here. And there'd always be somebody in like a little shack carving signs like on the go. And I was like, that's so fun. That looks like so liberating. So I
Chris (01:21.006)
nice.
Chris (01:31.278)
Hahaha.
Tiff Marchand (01:46.727)
joined a Facebook group and learned from there of how to do that and then that kind of transitioned into like the CNC because my back was dying without the hand router carving.
Chris (01:56.142)
yeah.
Tiff Marchand (01:57.557)
And then power carving because I was sick of framing my pieces So I decided to power carve the edges of them so that way I'd never have a need for framing again So that was really the reason I dove in and now now I'm trying to do like more three -dimensional stuff, but yeah That was the real reason I'll be honest
Chris (02:02.702)
Hmm, yeah.
Chris (02:09.102)
That's awesome.
Yeah, that's so cool. That's awesome. All right, we may end up cutting this section out, but I also have twins. So I feel like we have a built -in bond going through that. How old are yours? nice. Mine are about to turn seven.
Tiff Marchand (02:23.733)
do you? Yeah, it's a war. They're they just turned eight. Yes. Seven. Okay. Yeah. And like they had colic and like a throw up disorder when they were little. So it was just like, it was, you know, it was it was and like surviving that you need to find something that's therapeutic. And that's what carving was for me. It's like,
Chris (02:37.454)
Yes! Yes! This is brutal!
Chris (02:49.358)
Yeah.
Tiff Marchand (02:51.669)
I go out there and it's like, and I can breathe and now I can make, don't cut this out. People need to know. People have families. There's also twin parents out there who know the struggle.
Chris (02:52.494)
That's cool.
Chris (02:57.678)
Okay. Yeah, exactly. That's right. Yeah, it was, I mean, honestly, like my son, so we have boy girl twins and what do you have? Okay. Nice. yeah, my son didn't sleep through the night and consistently until he was like four. It was brutal. It was absolutely brutal. my gosh. Yeah. I don't think.
Tiff Marchand (03:11.925)
Two boys.
Tiff Marchand (03:19.797)
Mm -hmm same both of them though. Yes Yep, yep, they didn't start sleeping through the night until like five like people don't understand Hence why I call my company night carver because I would carve at night So yeah from the hours of like eight to midnight I would carve and then I would end up they'd be awake So then I would be and with them in my arms throughout the night. So like that is literally why I named it night carver
Chris (03:29.454)
That's yeah, it's wild. that makes sense. I get it.
Chris (03:42.51)
Yeah.
Chris (03:48.142)
That's wild. Yeah, it was so unbelievably hard. Like it seems like it was way harder. It was like way more than just like twice as hard as a single baby. It was like three times as hard. And then, yeah, and then just having, you know, two of everything. It's so expensive because you can't do any hand -me -downs. Like you always need double of everything. Like you buy car seats, you gotta buy, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Do they get a longwell now though?
Tiff Marchand (03:49.141)
Mm -hmm.
Yes.
Tiff Marchand (03:56.693)
Yes. Agreed.
Tiff Marchand (04:07.253)
Exactly. Yes. Mm hmm. Birthday parties, everything, everything just, yeah, it's all crazy.
No, sometimes. No, they do. They get along, but they fight. It's just like competitive nature, I think, between the kids. Just they're rowdy so much. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Chris (04:18.062)
really? Okay. Yeah. yeah.
That makes sense.
I know ours are like finally like they get along pretty well. I mean they go through periods of fighting a lot, but we have them in separate classrooms this year and I think that's helped. So give him some independence and some time apart. But we even tried to split. They slept in the same room up until like last year and we're like alright, you can have your own bedrooms now and now it lasted like six months and then yeah, my daughter wanted to go back with him so yeah.
Tiff Marchand (04:37.297)
Same.
Tiff Marchand (04:42.293)
Exactly. No, I totally agree.
Tiff Marchand (04:51.189)
They don't want to? That's funny. Yeah, they'll eventually make the switch.
Chris (04:58.926)
I know it's pretty funny but anyway that's cool. Twins are wild. Do you have any other kids or just the two? Okay nice that's great smart. Well that's I know yeah it's wild. I don't want any more that's for sure. We have an older daughter but yeah it's plenty. Yeah. All right back to woodworking.
Tiff Marchand (05:05.749)
Nope, that was it. Done. Yeah, couldn't handle it anymore.
Tiff Marchand (05:16.949)
Yeah, exactly. You're like, after that, we're good.
Tiff Marchand (05:25.461)
Yeah.
Chris (05:27.182)
Anyway, so OK, and is that what you do full time now? Or do you have another job as well? OK. Yeah.
Tiff Marchand (05:31.957)
So yeah, I'm self employed full time. So I also I do this. And then I also am the social media director for saber tooth power carving. So that ties in with my power carving addiction. And then I'm also the social media director for workbench con, which is an influencer convention in Atlanta. Yeah. So I do those as well. And then I have my podcast maker conversations. That's more of it. I had this saber tooth does sponsor it, but that's more of a passion thing like.
Chris (05:41.134)
Okay, yeah. Nice.
Okay, great.
Nice.
Chris (06:01.006)
Yeah.
Tiff Marchand (06:01.141)
It's my precious hours that I get to spend with all these amazing makers that I love and getting to know them more.
Chris (06:08.206)
That's cool. Yeah, that's awesome that you do that. And do you sell the carvings that you make?
Tiff Marchand (06:14.453)
For the most part, unless there's something like really big that I hold that are sentimental, like I'll never sell my bride of Chucky, you know, cause it's like, that was such an amazing piece to make. Like I don't want to sell that, but for the most part, yeah. Tell that guy to slow down.
Chris (06:21.998)
That's cool.
Yeah, that's awesome.
There may be a lot of background noise right now. I don't know if you can hear it, but there's a trash truck coming by to empty the dumpsters, so.
Tiff Marchand (06:35.849)
You
Somebody just zoomed by on a forklift or something. I heard them like zzzz
Chris (06:44.782)
yeah.
You're right. I know, it could be.
Tiff Marchand (06:52.693)
So that's the one thing I like about recording. What were you recording before?
Chris (06:57.87)
All we did was zoom for the last one.
Tiff Marchand (07:00.213)
It cuts out the audio in the background. It does like, yes. So it sucks that the video is not as nice, but it does get rid of your background sounds for the most part. So like, yeah, I record in Zoom. A lot of people love Riverside. And then there's another app, too, that people swear by that they really, really like. You could also, depending on where you're publishing, you can record in Spotify's app, too, because I publish on the Spotify for podcasters one. Yeah.
Chris (07:03.278)
Does it? Okay. Yeah.
Interesting. Okay, we'll see how this one goes.
Chris (07:25.678)
interesting. nice. Interesting. Yeah, we have no idea. We're new to this with no experience. So, yeah, we'll see how.
Tiff Marchand (07:32.373)
you
Tiff Marchand (07:37.173)
I've been podcasting for five years now, I think. Yeah, I started off with one with a partner, which was called Behind the Maker podcast. And then I did a podcast specifically for Sabretooth. So that one was called Carver Conversations, where I would interview like wood carvers from around the world, like, which was really neat. And then now mine's called Maker Conversations. Thanks.
Chris (07:40.11)
No way! Wow!
Chris (07:47.022)
nice.
Chris (07:51.086)
Okay.
That's awesome.
Wow, that's so cool.
That's so cool. So you're doing exactly what we're doing. Yeah. Sure.
Tiff Marchand (08:07.381)
But for myself, really, because Sabertooth is just a sponsor like now of this current show. So it's just purely just kind of for me to and like I'll bring brands on like if you ever want to come on after like we could actually have like a longer format, you know. Yeah.
Chris (08:19.278)
Thanks.
That's cool. Yeah, that's awesome that you do that. It's a lot of fun just meeting people and getting to know people better. All right, what would you say so far has been the most challenging aspect of your journey that you faced?
Tiff Marchand (08:26.037)
It is.
100%.
Tiff Marchand (08:37.909)
I mean, always kind of finding a way to make income, right? So I love to carve, but not all my carvings are going to sell right away. Or if I make just what I want, there's no guarantee that everyone else is going to want that. So kind of predicting what will sell, where to put your time in, I think is probably the biggest battle is.
Chris (08:58.094)
Yeah.
Tiff Marchand (08:59.285)
what deserves your time like today. I edited a podcast because I really, really wanted to make one, but I should have been doing something else. You know what I mean? So it's like, it's like, we're how do I fit this all in? And you know, sometimes you have to do something that's a passion, just so you can feel a little rejuvenated and not burnt out.
Chris (09:06.72)
Yeah.
Chris (09:19.182)
Yes, definitely.
Tiff Marchand (09:20.053)
and then dive in. So I think just like kind of like for me where to spend my time focusing on where since you know I've managed other accounts too so there's always a divided focus. And then yeah just trying to figure out what's next. I really really enjoyed doing a sticker club years ago where I was making like one giant carving a month and then making stickers of it and I keep toying with the idea of going back to that one day because that was pretty rad.
Chris (09:39.15)
Chris (09:43.854)
wow.
Chris (09:48.782)
That's cool. Wow.
Tiff Marchand (09:49.749)
Yeah, and if I didn't sell the big carving, I was happy to have that. And then now I have all these stickers that stickers sell well, because that's what we can afford. I mean, times are hard.
Chris (09:57.71)
Huh. Yeah. Yeah. No, that makes sense. Yeah. It's kind of people can like support your art and get a piece of your art at a lower price point. Hmm. That's really cool.
Tiff Marchand (10:07.029)
Yes, they have prints and stickers is what I was doing. It might come back. I keep talking about it. I feel like it has to because I want to it might not be a month thing. It might be like a quarterly thing because I got to be realistic here in my life. But that would be so fun. But yeah, and just like learning, learning how to incorporate the laser into what I do, I think is going to be important to kind of.
Chris (10:13.262)
You should. That's a great idea.
Chris (10:19.118)
Yeah, don't commit to anything too much. That's awesome.
Tiff Marchand (10:31.893)
make things like the next level. So kind of CNC laser and power carving all together and see what I can come up with.
Chris (10:40.366)
Yeah, that's really cool. Are the classes that you teach a big part of your, I guess, your business?
Tiff Marchand (10:46.901)
It's yeah, it's a way to make extra income. So I'll teach once a month in Vermont at a place called HatchBase. And I would love to add more. But as we discussed earlier, I've got twins. So it's really tough to balance because that's always on the weekends.
Chris (10:53.134)
wow.
Chris (10:59.502)
Yeah.
Chris (11:03.758)
Mmm, yeah.
Tiff Marchand (11:04.693)
So I'd love to get more. But it also is something I get to do in October. I get to go to Maker Camp and teach power carving for three days in a row to hundreds of people. So it's pretty crazy the amount of people I've taught like how to use their first carving burr, which is pretty wild.
Chris (11:18.926)
That's so cool.
Chris (11:23.47)
That's awesome. And yeah, it's one of those things that most people haven't done. You know, it's...
Tiff Marchand (11:27.733)
Right, you're scared to do. It can be very expensive to get into it, and what if you hate it? Like that's what I always say, like this class is to teach you what you like and what you don't like. It's kind of how I frame it every month. But it's been awesome, it's been selling out, so like that's really cool to like feel good that people wanna come and try something new. I've had to repeat people too, which is really fun.
Chris (11:30.126)
Yeah. 100%. Yeah.
Chris (11:43.63)
That's really cool.
Chris (11:53.486)
Wow, that's awesome. Yeah, it's cool doing those things. And I totally get what you mean about, you know, balancing, you know, family and kids with both creative and, you know, business ambitions. It's tough to find that line. You can, you know, I feel like it's always,
Tiff Marchand (12:06.933)
Yeah.
Tiff Marchand (12:13.109)
How many soccer games can you miss without it being like, mom's never there, you know? So it is, it's a, yeah. This year I haven't missed any, that's because they only have eight games, but last year I missed a lot, but it had to be done because like when you're self -employed, it's tough, you know? It's one job to the next job and there's deadlines.
Chris (12:15.702)
Right? I know. It's true. Yeah.
Right, nice.
Yeah.
Chris (12:32.782)
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you have to make ends meet. Mm -hmm. Yeah, and you don't always have the work, so when you do, you have to kind of go for it and get it done. Mm -hmm.
Tiff Marchand (12:41.941)
Mm -hmm. Or you get some wild commission. Like, that's what happened last time, is like...
I got a cool commission from Carhartt and I was like, well, nothing else matters. You know what I mean? Like, you're like, this is what I'm focusing on now. I got to get into this and grind. So the nice part is, though, is like my family knows that like they they've grown up now with me having this business and say we're babies because that's when I started like really diving into it. So over the years, they're just like, Ma, go car. We're good. Thanks. You got us some food. This is good. All right. You know, and then the common.
Chris (12:51.982)
Wow. Yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
Chris (13:09.422)
Mm -hmm.
That's awesome. That's really cool.
Tiff Marchand (13:18.343)
peek in. I haven't got them to get in the shop yet. They don't like the loud noises. We got to work on that. But yeah, exactly. They're like, why do we want to go in there and hear that? It's probably better for their ears.
Chris (13:21.71)
Yeah.
Chris (13:25.134)
It's understandable. They're so young still. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that makes sense. Where does most of your, I guess you mentioned a big commission, is most of your work commissioned or do you just make things and sell through like online or farmers markets or yeah, how do you find your customers?
Tiff Marchand (13:46.549)
It used to be the online and markets only type of thing. And over the years now, I've either been, a lot of my pieces that I make are really fun, are either contests that I'm hosting. So I'll either do like a maker's challenge or I was a mentor for MakerCollab and we did something and then.
I've hosted a few contests for Sabretooth and that's when I started making those three dimensional sculptures, kind of like pushing myself. So they're either commissioned that way or like recently Carhartt reached out and I got to do a national parks campaign with them, which was like, this dreams come true type of thing. They commissioned a piece for me to make. I got to like be featured on a video. Like there's ads going on with me on them right now, which was really neat. Yeah, like this was recent.
Chris (14:15.246)
Yeah.
Chris (14:24.846)
No way. Wow, that's so cool.
Chris (14:36.686)
Wow, that's so cool.
Tiff Marchand (14:37.845)
And then otherwise, yeah, I make what I want. Or if it's a really good commission, I'll take it. Like recently I did a Wu -Tang sign and then I did a throwback Mario piece. So like that was really fun. But I'm trying to keep them. Yeah, those were just individuals reaching out. Yeah, and I had some past customers recently reach out for stuff. But the thing is, is battling like Tiff that was eight years ago to now and having to...
Chris (14:45.165)
No way.
Chris (14:49.102)
And these are just individuals or brands reaching out to you through social media. That's cool.
Tiff Marchand (15:06.709)
think do I take these commissions? Are they even worth it? Because it's tough. I used to sell things for so cheap now. And now I can't even think about dedicating that much time to it because it's like, I want to do this for you. But at the same time, I need to make sure it's worth it. And that's why you're saying value of time has gone incredible since I've been self -employed. I really have to think about where I'm spending that energy.
Chris (15:24.334)
Yeah.
Mm -hmm.
Chris (15:34.254)
Yeah, absolutely. How would you say you split your time between carving and social media management and say other things like teaching and what?
Tiff Marchand (15:46.261)
I try to get the social media stuff done in the morning, like fresh in the morning. I get there, I can design stuff and kind of just like get that situated. And then I'll try to get in the shop for like half a day if I can, depending on what I'm working on. And then it's like, what else do we got to do? So every day is different though, honestly. I'm a big, like I worked in a corporate world where deadlines were king. Like I worked in print.
Chris (16:15.342)
Tiff Marchand (16:16.053)
So I already was, I'm very used to juggling multiple things and dates and deadlines, you know? So I've really incorporated that with my, my to -do list. It's kind of just knowing what is the most important thing to do right now. I just put up a whiteboard in a corner of my room, trying to get all official here, which I haven't really been utilizing, but a lot of notes, a lot of planning, Trello is my friend, just like staying organized is the best way to kind of manage that.
Chris (16:33.262)
Nice. Nice. Yeah.
Tiff Marchand (16:46.007)
of stuff. And again, knowing what what deals to enter in is important because I definitely overbook myself. I'm very guilty of this.
Chris (16:47.502)
Yeah, absolutely.
Chris (16:54.83)
You have to as a small business owner, right?
Tiff Marchand (16:59.445)
You do. And there's just so many avenues though. There's so many cool things. Like it's all the, I was telling a friend this recently, because I was doing a function in Excel that I haven't done in years, like since my corporate job, right? And I was excited though that I was doing this because it was for something that's fun. Like all these opportunities that I'm working on is for something that I want to be a part of. I actually want to be involved with this. So it doesn't feel...
Like it's horrible work. I feel the pressure. I feel the deadlines, but it's I'm excited to do it. And that's the difference. I think, you know, since doing it hasn't been all sunshine and rainbows. Like it's real stress and deadlines, but like it's been a cool experience. I'm glad I got brave enough to quit a job that I was doing for 16 years to go full time and try this. Yeah. I was working in like marketing and advertising for direct mail print for a really long time. Yeah.
Chris (17:56.938)
That takes guts to do that.
Tiff Marchand (17:57.815)
Yes.
It was that I ended up like hating the job after all the years, you know what I mean? Like you start off in one role and then you get to another role at the end. It's like, I, this is not even, this resembles nothing of the job I was hired for. So like mentally I was ready. and it was scary. Like it took years for me to actually like do it. And if my husband and friends didn't like support me and making that jump, like, oof.
Chris (18:05.322)
Hmm. Yeah.
Chris (18:14.062)
Yeah.
Chris (18:18.286)
Yeah.
Chris (18:28.078)
Yeah, totally.
Tiff Marchand (18:29.077)
But now I look at it and I'm like, how did I ever work a full -time job? Like, I don't even know. Like, with the kids and stuff, like, I'm always running. I'm watching the clock. I have alarms set, like, you have to leave at 2 20 to go get your kids. Then I'll come back after we hang out for a bit and I'll get back to work for a little while, you know? It's really taking a while to kind of get a schedule, we'll say. Schedule. Look down.
Chris (18:33.102)
Mm -hmm.
Chris (18:38.734)
Yeah.
Chris (18:48.11)
Yeah.
Chris (18:52.27)
Yeah, I know. Yeah, I don't know how people work full -time jobs or you have to be in an office, you know, nine to five and have kids. Yeah, it's wild. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I know. Could you imagine ever, I guess, could you imagine your life had you not made that leap?
Tiff Marchand (18:59.445)
Did it for 20 years? Yeah. But the have kids part is the hard part. Yeah, once they came, it was like,
Tiff Marchand (19:17.141)
I was stressed. I was crying every day, honestly.
Chris (19:18.542)
Yeah. Cheers.
Tiff Marchand (19:21.013)
I was just so over it. Like, yeah, I would have to switch like a different industry for sure. I definitely had to get out of that because it was just, it wasn't a fun environment. Like it was all data and I'm an artist. I was hired because I was an artist and then it ended up I was working in Excel all day. Like that's for me to choose to go back to Excel. It's like trauma opening it up. We're like, let's crunch some data. Yeah, exactly.
Chris (19:35.406)
Hmm.
Chris (19:39.758)
Mmm.
Yeah, that's big. Exposure therapy. Crazy.
Tiff Marchand (19:53.333)
But no, it's, it's so liberating. And to be able to say yes to stuff now, like that's the cool thing. When I was in a full time job, I couldn't say yes to a lot of opportunities, which was, you know, hold you back, but also you're missing out on all this stuff that you could be enjoying and being a part of. So like that, I think is so huge. So yeah, being self -employed though, it's, it may not be glorious. I'm making less than I was before. I'm so much happier. Like I'm literally happy most days and that's amazing.
Chris (19:58.51)
Mm -hmm. Yeah.
Chris (20:17.558)
Yeah.
Chris (20:23.342)
That's awesome. Yeah. And yeah, you only have one life to live, you know, and it's yeah, you can. I don't know.
Tiff Marchand (20:30.069)
classic midlife crisis. I quit when I was 40. I'm out. I did. I said I will not turn 41. Yeah.
Chris (20:32.782)
nice! That's great! I cannot do this forever. Yeah, that's so funny. Well that's awesome that you made the switch and have made it work. You know, it's scary doing it for sure.
Tiff Marchand (20:43.157)
Yep.
Tiff Marchand (20:48.149)
Thanks, yeah. So scary.
Chris (20:52.494)
made it through to the other side. And I feel like with a lot of things like this, the longer you do it, the more stability that it has. And I don't know, the less scary it gets over time.
Tiff Marchand (20:59.637)
Yes. I'm moving towards YouTube. I'm really trying to be smart and monetize. Like, again, spend time where you need to, what's going to be most beneficial. And though I am playing the Instagram game still, because you can't let that go, it's got to be, it's like, they both have to work hand in hand, sadly. I do want to spend more time in the YouTube realm.
Chris (21:04.59)
Hmm.
Chris (21:11.086)
Yeah.
Chris (21:15.278)
hahahaha
Yeah.
Chris (21:23.854)
Yeah, I'm hearing that from a lot of people. What would you say, and I guess big picture is next for you on your journey? You mentioned YouTube, you mentioned incorporating laser more. What are your plans in the future?
Tiff Marchand (21:36.373)
Yes, so definitely I want to be able to focus more on me over the last two years. Like I said, it's been spread around a lot, so I really want to focus in on YouTube. I want to get better at storytelling and release really fun character driven videos. I want to really lean into the Night Carver brand and...
the horror theme of it and just get really silly, honestly. Because I feel like I've only just kind of scratched the surface there and people don't know the true weirdo that I am and they need to, you know? They gotta show it to them. Yeah. Mm -hmm. Yeah, no, exactly.
Chris (22:03.502)
That's cool.
Chris (22:10.862)
Exactly. Absolutely. I feel like that's honestly what works too is just, I don't know, being your unique self. Because I feel like so many people try and, I don't know, fit into a mold or follow what other people do, but nobody's weird enough.
Tiff Marchand (22:26.517)
Yeah, I think my reason is I work with so many brands, like I hold myself back thinking like, no, they're not going to like this. You know what I mean? Like serious grit might not care if I'm doing something crazy with their sandpaper, but you never know. you say that I do have a video I have not released yet and I am using your sandpaper. So I'm like.
Chris (22:32.686)
yeah, for sure.
Chris (22:39.822)
No, we'll bring it on. Okay, alright, sounds good.
Tiff Marchand (22:52.821)
It may be a remix. I don't know if you know Ricky TV, but there was a donut video he made years ago. well, you'll see. Now you've you've unleashed it now. I've got to finish that edit.
Chris (22:55.542)
No.
Chris (23:00.654)
All right, I'm going to have to look that up. That's right. We're going to lead with this in the interview and just to make sure this comes to see the light of day. Exactly.
Tiff Marchand (23:08.916)
Yes. It's a fruition. It's one of those ones that I started editing and then I chickened out because like, no, no, no, no, no, I can't. I can't. You'll. Yeah, I don't know how PG 13 this podcast is. So, you know, you'll see. Well, that's great. We're sanding a donut. It gets wild. Yeah.
Chris (23:18.95)
I'm sorry.
Chris (23:26.638)
Anything goes. Nice, I love that. My mind is wandering, but I'll wait to see it. That's awesome.
Tiff Marchand (23:38.709)
Yep, exactly. When you look up Ricky TV, you'll get it. But yeah.
Chris (23:45.902)
Alright. It'll be my post -interview work.
Tiff Marchand (23:50.741)
I really, really, really want to focus in on that YouTube. And maybe that's going to tie in with my sticker club too. You know, like I really do want to bring that back. So if I can document them as I'm building them and make videos on them and then also have the stickers and prints and t -shirts and whatever else I can, I really want to get better at that. Cause like I said, I've been building like these little foundations, but I haven't had the time to really push them through. And I really need to like hone in and find my focus. Cause,
Chris (23:55.47)
Nice. Yeah.
Chris (24:08.366)
Yeah.
Tiff Marchand (24:20.695)
fun as it is hosting contests and stuff it does distract you from what else you were working on you know
Chris (24:27.662)
For sure. Yeah. And building your own brand and your own presence on these various platforms.
Tiff Marchand (24:32.757)
It's fun though too. It's like, but it's also so fun. It is.
Chris (24:35.182)
Yeah.
I know. Yeah, it's tough. But yeah, and maybe that's part of it is just, you know, doing all of it, but doing less over here and a little more over there and not necessarily dropping anything.
Tiff Marchand (24:49.333)
Mm -hmm or making that one piece. I'm making part of the second. You know what I mean? Like putting it all in one bag Like this is all this is gonna be everything This piece yeah, yep. Yep. So yeah Yeah
Chris (24:53.678)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, no, that'd be smart. That's awesome. Well, this has been great. It's been so much fun getting to know you and hearing about what you're up to and the struggles you've had along the way and what you're excited for next. It's super cool.
Tiff Marchand (25:14.037)
Yeah, it was really nice meeting you too. I was glad to like, like you said, connect after talking throughout the years on DMs, but not actually having a face to face conversation.
Chris (25:21.934)
I know. Yeah, it's funny. It's so different and it's, I don't know, it's so much fun because we're all just people with the same types of goals and a lot of us, I guess, entrepreneurial ones have the same kind of mindset on a lot of this. So we have a lot in common. Makes it fun. Yeah.
Tiff Marchand (25:30.997)
Mm -hmm.
Tiff Marchand (25:38.965)
Absolutely, I'm gonna be sending you a link after this so you can come on my show and we'll get to know about you because I do want to know more for sure
Chris (25:44.686)
All right. Yeah, that'd be fun. That'd be great. Cool. Well, thanks so much for taking the time with us. And I'm going to look up Ricky T after this and you're going to release that video and it's going to do great. Perfect. See if there are any regrets the next day. Right. Awesome.
Tiff Marchand (25:48.789)
awesome.
Tiff Marchand (25:54.965)
boy, watch out world. It's gonna be a Friday night type of thing. See if it stays up for Saturday morning.
Yes, the Lee.
Maybe I'll just archive it.
Chris (26:15.086)
Exactly. Let's put this on pause. Awesome. Yeah, this is a lot of fun.
Tiff Marchand (26:18.261)
Yeah. Thank you for having me on though. I really appreciate it. And I do. I love your product. So I think it's really fun that you made that because of a struggle that you were having because that's the dream, right? You now I mean, that's all you can do, but that's a good thing, right? If it's selling, that's great. So.
Chris (26:33.294)
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It keeps us busy. And now, you know, I find the joy in, in doing this too, you know, it's almost similar to, you know, woodworking in a way where there's always like some new puzzle to solve or some new challenge or whatever it may be. So it's.
Tiff Marchand (26:55.285)
And then you can honestly just keep improvising and improving things. And you know, that's the fun part. Yeah.
Chris (26:59.47)
Exactly. There's plenty of creativity to be had in this too. So yeah. All right. Well, this is awesome. Yeah. Likewise. I'll get back to carving. Or painting. Right. nice. Well, that's fun. All right. That's right. smart.
Tiff Marchand (27:03.317)
Absolutely. Cool. Seriously, nice talking with you.
Tiff Marchand (27:10.421)
I am. Have a good one. Who knows what's up today. It's actually laser work. That's what's happening today. Yes. It's Mother's Day. Gotta make some last minute gifts. Yes. Have a great day, Chris. Bye.
Chris (27:27.278)
I like it. All right. Thanks. You too. I'll talk to you later. Bye.
